Need Dating Advice here anyone wanna help?

2 scenarios here:





1) I take the train to school all the time and theres this person I wanna ask out the problem is I dont even know her name usually she just hangs out by herself and I'm with my friends. Any ideas on how I could make this work.





2) Theres this person I sit next to in my last class before I take the train home I wanna ask her out but the only time I have the opportunity to talk to her is after class which leaves me with about 20 minutes, oh and we are a small class so we pretty much know eachother's names and stuff. So how can I make this work.





So any adviceNeed Dating Advice here anyone wanna help?
just tell your friends


';hey, i'll be right back';


or say something like


';i have to quickly take care of something alone';





and go talk to her


if she usually sits alone maybe sitting with her is something she would likeNeed Dating Advice here anyone wanna help?
1) If she sitting alone and you're with you're friends thats already a perfect setup.usually you'll find one maybe two chance everynow and then to bring her in...For example bring a deck of cards and asks if she wants to play...most girls enjoy card games....then from there just play with her casually and start talking about random stuff avoid getting into big details of school and what she does for a living....from there i guess you can get it to work








2)Being that you kind of know her already it gives you another good set up...wait until you don't understand something or have a group discussion and jus look to your side where she'll be and give her that ';i'll go with you'; look because ';i'm too lazy to move'; and if your in a group discuss what you're supposed to discuss but still get in a little side conversation in it.





Good luck on both of them